Everything about Cumbric Language totally explained
Cumbric was the
Brythonic Celtic language spoken in Northern
England and southern
Lowland Scotland, for example the area anciently referred to as the
Hen Ogledd, and centred on
Cumbria. Place name evidence suggests it may also have been spoken as far south as the
Yorkshire Dales. Most linguists believe that it became extinct in the 11th century, after the incorporation of the semi-independent
kingdom of Strathclyde into the
kingdom of Scotland.
One of the main questions regarding the status of Cumbric, is whether it should be considered a separate language at all. The North-Welsh speaking area was probably isolated from the
Welsh speaking kingdoms of Wales after the
Battle of Chester in 616, which appears to have sealed the Northumbrian conquest of
Cheshire, dividing the Brythonic peoples into 3 areas (Modern Wales, Cornwall and Northwest England, the latter two later accepted the
King of Wessex's dominance and dissolved into England). It is impossible for us to know how long Brittonic speech persisted in these conquered areas (although the Celtic place-name cluster around
Wigan suggests there may have been pockets in which the language survived for a considerable time) or whether language innovations were transmitted between the North-Welsh and the Welsh of
Wales.
The scarcity of linguistic evidence means that Cumbric's distinctness from Welsh is more deduced than proven. However, Cornish and Welsh evolved into separate languages with low mutual intelligibility in the period between 597-1000, after being geographically separated by the fall of the
Cotswold region at the
Battle of Deorham. It is therefore highly probable that the final stages of Cumbric were very different from Welsh.
Equivalence with Old Welsh
Some linguists argue that the differences between Cumbric and Old Welsh are not enough to classify it as a language. Since, at some stages in its development and usage, it was probably mutually intelligible with Welsh, it isn't certain whether and when exactly it should be classified as having existed as a separate language.
Linguistic evidence
Although the language is long extinct it's arguable that traces of its vocabulary persisted into the modern era. In the 19th and 20th centuries
sheep counts and children's
counting rhymes which are possibly derived from Cumbric were collected throughout northern England and southern Scotland: eg
Yan, Tan, Tethera, Methera, Pimp compared to Old Welsh
Un, Dou, Tri, Petwar, Pimp. Whether these counting systems bear any relation to the Brittonic dialects spoken in the region is a matter of some debate. It has been argued that these numerals were introduced to England by Welsh shepherds or monks during the medieval period. The fact that some have also been collected outside of the region in which Cumbric was spoken may indicate that they were a later introduction from Wales, or, less probably that they're part of a wider celtic
sub-stratum. It is also possible that the counting systems were preserved in the Cumbric speaking region then exported into neighbouring areas.
More concrete evidence of Cumbric exists in the place-names of the extreme northwest of England and the South of Scotland, the personal names of Strathclyde Britons in Scottish, Irish and Anglo-Saxon sources, and a few Cumbric words surviving into the
High Middle Ages in South West Scotland as legal terms.
From this scanty evidence, little can be deduced about the singular characteristics of Cumbric, not even the name its speakers used to refer to it. What is known is that the language was Brythonic Insular Celtic, descended from Old North Welsh, related to the presumed
Brythonic Pictish language, and to Cornish and Breton. Due to its location, it's likely that
Goidelic and Scandinavian loan-words were incorporated into the language before its demise.
Counting Systems of Possible Cumbric Origin
| * |
Keswick |
Westmorland |
Eskdale |
Millom |
High Furness |
Wasdale |
Teesdale |
Swaledale |
Wensleydale |
Ayrshire |
| 1 | yan |
yan |
yaena |
aina |
yan |
yan |
yan |
yahn |
yan |
yinty |
|
| 2 | tyan |
tyan |
taena |
peina |
taen |
taen |
tean |
tayhn |
tean |
tinty |
|
| 3 | tethera |
tetherie |
teddera |
para |
tedderte |
tudder |
tetherma |
tether |
tither |
tetheri |
|
| 4 | methera |
peddera |
meddera |
pedera |
medderte |
anudder |
metherma |
mether |
mither |
metheri |
|
| 5 | pimp |
gip |
pimp |
pimp |
pimp |
nimph |
pip |
mimp(h) |
pip |
bamf |
|
| 6 | sethera |
teezie |
hofa |
ithy |
haata |
- |
lezar |
hith-her |
teaser |
leetera |
|
| 7 | lethera |
mithy |
lofa |
mithy |
slaata |
- |
azar |
lith-her |
leaser |
seetera |
|
| 8 | hovera |
katra |
seckera |
owera |
lowera |
- |
catrah |
anver |
catra |
over |
|
| 9 | dovera |
hornie |
leckera |
lowera |
dowa |
- |
horna |
danver |
horna |
dover |
|
| 10 | dick |
dick |
dec |
dig |
dick |
- |
dick |
dic |
dick |
dik |
|
| 15 | bumfit |
bumfit |
bumfit |
bumfit |
mimph |
- |
bumfit |
mimphit |
bumper |
- |
|
| 20 | giggot |
- |
- |
- |
- |
- |
- |
- |
Jiggit |
- |
|
The numbers show some similarity to one another, and commonly go into
folk etymology, for example bumper or into rhyming patterns, for example yan, tan or leetera, seetera. In some cases, there's also some shift, for example in Ayrshire, "seetera" means seven, but in Keswick, "sethera" is six.
The Cumbric origin of these counting systems is debatable, but there's a clear Celtic component in their origin, e.g
pethera/methera Welsh
pedwar. Similar
Yan Tan Tethera counts have been collected throughout upland England.
English words of possible Cumbric origin
A number of words occurring in
Scottish and
Northern England dialects of English have been proposed as being of possible Brythonic origin. Ascertaining the real derivation of these words is far from simple, due in part to the similarities between some cognates in the
Brythonic and
Goidelic languages (see
Linn below) and the fact that borrowing took place in both directions between these languages. Another difficulty lies with some words which were taken into
Old English as in many cases it's impossible to tell whether the borrowing is directly from Brythonic or not (see
Brogat,
Crag). The following are possibilities:
- Bach - cowpat (cf Welsh bawch, Gaelic buadhar)
- Baivenjar - mean fellow (Welsh bawyn)
- Brat - apron; often cited as a relic of Brythonic, the word is found in Welsh, Scots and northern English dialects but originates in Gaelic. Possibly spread into English by Hiberno-Norse settlers.
- Brogat - a type of mead (Welsh bragod - also found in Chaucer)
- Coble - small flat bottomed boat (also North East England), akin to Welsh ceubal and Latin caupulus
- Crag - rocks (either from Brythonic craig or Goidelic creag)
- Croude - type of small harp, as opposed to clarsach (Gaelic Cruit, Welsh Crwth)
- Croot - a small boy (Welsh crwt, Gaelic cruit, "someone small and humpbacked")
- Galnes - weregeld, or fine for homicide (Welsh galanas)
- Linn - pool in river; waterfall (either from Brythonic llyn or Goidelic linne)
- Lum - Well known Scottish word for chimney, Welsh llumon
- Peat - probably from Brythonic for "piece" (Welsh peth "thing" vs. Gaelic cuid "part")
- Pen - pointed conical hill (Gaelic beinn probably of Pictish origin)
- Poll - a pool (Brythonic pwll, Goidelic poll)
- Vendace - fish of Lochmaben, Derwent Water and Bassenthwaite Lake, probably cognate with Gwyniad
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